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2007-03-28 [Nocternity S.]: this is kind of confusing

2007-03-28 [Pillowthief]: Im not exactly sure what they're looking for...

2007-03-28 [Ilana]: It does, however, seem very exciting, whatever it is.

2007-03-28 [Yuriona]: They are looking for photos or images that have a more science fiction theme to them this time rather than a fantasy one.

2007-03-28 [Sunrose]: Think of scientific discoveries, space travel, life on other planets or environmental changes.
Industrial photography included. :)

2007-03-28 [Pillowthief]: A photograph of life on other planets? Maybe I just dont have the imagination for this.

2007-03-28 [Yuriona]: Sure! You could get models in costumes and put them on a set but it doesn't have to be that involved. It could be something like a double exposure of the moon so it looks like there are two moons instead of one. ;)

2007-03-28 [Pillowthief]: *Remembers the reason why he's an artist and not a photographer, and calmly backs away from the wiki*

2007-03-28 [lady with the locust heart]: Would zombies and stuff be more of a horror fiction-type thing? Or could it work for this?

2007-03-29 [Yuriona]: Alien zombies might work but regular zombies are really more horror-fantasy in my opinion.

2007-03-29 [Nocternity S.]: hmm i honestly cant think of anything... i need more imagination. -sigh-

2007-03-30 [Ravendust]: that's very nifty, [moira hawthorne].

2007-03-30 [moira hawthorne]: thx... its been fun

2007-03-30 [Yuriona]: Ooooo... that is really cool moira! Interesting interpretation of a space landing on a different planet. I actually thought that top bit was a skull. Kudos!

2007-03-30 [moira hawthorne]: which top bit?
Eirikr has his own reasons for everything on the buggy...
mostly to do with icecream or bubbles

2007-03-30 [Yuriona]: LOL! Such a kid...

The tower next to the egg. In the manipulated version, it almost looks like a skull. :) Very nice entry.

2007-03-30 [moira hawthorne]: thats a loudspeaker to announce when icecream is to be served

2007-03-30 [BinaryPhoenix]: WoW!!!  Excellent job moira! You have set the bar very high for the other entrants...

2007-03-30 [Teufelsweib]: oh wooow!! awesome entry, moira!

2007-03-30 [moira hawthorne]: thx u thx u I have the advantage of a six yr old son... he is endless amounts of inspiration

2007-03-31 [Gabycat]: I love the space icecreams buggy! it's creative and imaginative! and Eirikr made a cool setting for it! <3

2007-04-01 [Vampire Akis]: Does a picture of an 'alien' count? ^^"

2007-04-01 [Ilana]: I think it would.

2007-04-01 [Vampire Akis]: Thanks. ^^

2007-04-01 [Vampire Akis]: There she goes..

2007-04-01 [moira hawthorne]: thats really coool... but you dont have a marble in your proof

2007-04-01 [Ravendust]: I was gonna mention the marble...

2007-04-01 [Pillowthief]: Hmm... Bummer. Good thing you still have some time until the deadline.

2007-04-01 [moira hawthorne]: maybe this page needs a bold reminder of the marble proof

2007-04-02 [Kelaria]: I don't like the marble proof. It's really obscure... and I have no access to marbles without stealing one or spending money I don't have (college really makes you go broke so fast)

2007-04-02 [Ravendust]: It was clarified that if you really don't have a marble- so long as you use something round.

2007-04-02 [Kelaria]: I'll try to find something :P I have looked all over my room and can't find anything spherical. I'll raid my friend's dorm rooms.

2007-04-02 [Ravendust]: lol, I have a lovely little crystal, though it's also being used in mine... I've changed my mind about what I want to do...

2007-04-02 [Vampire Akis]: yeah it does need a bold reminder of the marble proof... I suppose. *shrugs*

2007-04-02 [Vampire Akis]: Marble is a kind of stone, right? *wonders what marble is*

2007-04-02 [Yuriona]: Yup, marble is stone but its also refers to a small, glass sphere used for playing games::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbles

2007-04-02 [Vampire Akis]: Oh sheet! I thought marlbe on the wall! Why do I have to be so stupid? There's marble on the proof picture... Sorry....

2007-04-02 [Sunrose]: You don't have to put the marble in your final entry, as long as it is in the proof picture :)

2007-04-02 [Yuriona]: [Chimalus], you need to provide the required proof photo taken during the same shoot and containing a marble, ball or some other spherical object or your entry will be removed from the contest.

2007-04-02 [Chimalus]: I told you, this shot is taken of the inside of a copper pipe!!! Ahh, but I understand what you mean. I'll take a picture of the copper pipe pronto.

2007-04-02 [Linderel]: 'scuse me, I don't think you understood. :3
"the required proof photo taken during the same shoot" <- means you can't take it afterwards, savvy?

2007-04-02 [moira hawthorne]: and you need a marble or other ball

2007-04-02 [Chimalus]: Crap! I took the Swirling Sun photo over a month ago! So now I can't use it?

What's with the marble thing? I don't get it...

2007-04-02 [Linderel]: Well, the photograph has to be new, too, taken specifically for this contest - so no, you can't enter with that.

2007-04-02 [moira hawthorne]: Proofphoto
To enter this contest you have to submit a new picture combined with a proofpicture taken during the same photoshoot.
This has two reasons:
- The proofphoto shows that the picture is yours.
- Both pictures have to be new, because we want you to make your entries especially for this theme. The picture should clearly show that you thought about the theme and how you want to reflect this.
You can't have done this before the contest, because you didn't know of it then.

Criteria:
The proofphoto must be a picture of the same scenery/environment, but it has to somehow include a real marble(s).
If you have used photomanipulation you are also required to submit the unedited photograph!


just take another.. since you just took another ...

2007-04-03 [Lothuriel]: Wow it stinks that I missed this one. That's what no computer gets me I suppose.

2007-04-03 [Chimalus]: Right, gotcha. I'll make my second entry count. Such rigidity in this contest! And here I was thinking that photography was timeless... (hence, perhaps, one's ability to submit a preview photo that was not taken with the contest in mind) I DO submit to the rules, but I still firmly believe that art can be created at any time, by any perspective, aside from when the medium was applied. So... think about it. Doesn't mean you have to change anything.

2007-04-03 [Yuriona]: The rules are in place to make sure that someone doesn't just take some random image off the internet and claim that they took it themselves or just flip through an old photo album or computer files to find an image that sort of fits the theme, again claiming it is their own photo done for the contest. The rules are there to safeguard the integrity of both the contest as well as the photographers who worked their butts off on their entry. Photography like all art is timeless but unfortunately, some people are just lazy jerks who have no qualms about stealing someone else's work just so they can make themselves look good. ;) I suggest you think about that before whining about the rigidity of the rules.

2007-04-03 [Chimalus]: Mmmm... I didn't expect you to accuse me of whining. See, when you make things personal that way, it really sours the discussion. Anyway, as you've taken the time to assume that I didn't acknowledge the existence of "lazy jerks who have no qualms about stealing some one else's work", what method would you use to ensure that a photo had or had not been stolen?

2007-04-03 [Lothuriel]: Crap, don't I feel stupid...I had only glanced at the deadline and thought it said March 31...*runs to grab her camera*

2007-04-03 [Kelaria]: lol! It's alright Loth ^_^ It's an easy mistake made :P
I'm happy because I found a spherical object to use! :D My friend Heather is loaning me a little toy bouncey ball!

2007-04-03 [Yuriona]: The proofphoto is in place to help prove that the image submitted is authentic and taken specifically for this contest. And I take nothing personally, I consider anyone attempting to persuade council members to bend the rules for their own gain whining. Follow the rules or don't enter. Its really just that simple.

2007-04-03 [Ilana]: I can hardly wait until school's over so I can work on an entry. By the way, is fan art allowed, like people in Star Wars or Star Trek costumes?

2007-04-03 [Yuriona]: I don't think there's anything in the rules against that as long as you take the photo and provide the proofphoto as required. :) Star Wars and Star Trek are definitely Sci-fi! XD

2007-04-03 [Chimalus]: Technically, though, it doesn't "prove" anything. Somebody could still lie about it any time. That's why trust is so important here, and I consider trust very important.

Once again, you overassumed. I stated earlier... "So... think about it. Doesn't mean you have to change anything." Really, I wasn't whining at all. What would be the point in that? I was simply offering another point of view. I question the rules so I can gain a better understanding of why they're on place. See? I've now gained a better understanding.

2007-04-03 [Yuriona]: I don't know why you feel the need to prove your point to me. Frankly, its your opinion and you are entitled to it but I just don't care. Nothing is 100% foolproof but the rules do make it more difficult to fake it than previous photo contests. *shrugs*

2007-04-03 [Chimalus]: Hahaha. It seems I've proven my point then. It's all for consideration.

2007-04-03 [Vampire Akis]: Whatif there IS marble on the proofphoto but no ball marble? =/

2007-04-03 [Linderel]: As said, it needs to be a spherical object.

2007-04-03 [Vampire Akis]: oh... danke Schatz.

2007-04-03 [Yuriona]: Then consider it unconsidered. :P

2007-04-03 [Ilana]: Sweet... maybe it's time to pull out the old twi'lek costume.

2007-04-04 [Sunrose]: [Able Insane]: Please upload your images to Elftown as described in the rules :)

2007-04-04 [Able Insane]: Ekk! Sorry about that, I got really excited and didn't read all the fine print:( It's better now though, I hope.

2007-04-04 [Sunrose]: Yep! :)

2007-04-04 [moira hawthorne]: just there is no marble/spherical ball in two of the three proofs...

2007-04-04 [Sunrose]: Aye this is true (it's late over here :P)...

2007-04-06 [Sunrose]: Thanks [Able Insane]!

2007-04-06 [Able Insane]: Did I fix it all?

2007-04-06 [Yuriona]: Well, [Vampire Akis] does have marble tile in the background just not a marble. I believe she misunderstood the requirement.

2007-04-07 [NOOOPE]: Wait... there honestly needs to be a freakin' marble?

2007-04-07 [Sunrose]: In the proofpicture there must be a marble or spherical object :)

2007-04-08 [NOOOPE]: there's a knob to a dresser in one of them... and button like things on one... and my eyes are spheres... and I took them all less than 9 hours ago...

Am I safe?

2007-04-08 [Sunrose]: It sounds to me like you're trying to find spherical objects in pictures you already took, rather than adding them there as proof :P

2007-04-08 [NOOOPE]: Well, see thing is, I see this conest on the front page. I say to myself, do that when you have the chance. So I take a bunch of photos, stick 'em all together, spend hours making this crazy thing, skim the rules page again to see if there are any size requirements and bam, in some sentence somewhere, it says I need a marble. So all of my work, my entire saturday is for nothing, 'cause I read too fast. Thus my desperation.

2007-04-08 [moira hawthorne]: the same thing has happened to me on previous ET contests..

2007-04-08 [Sunrose]: The rules are there for a reason. In big h2 letters it reads 'special rules' and 'proof picture' was written in bold.
It has become a general criteria in official photocontests to submit a proofpicture, so it would be expected for this one as well.
We can't make exceptions, because it leaves a precedent for others. In this case we don't want others to lie to us using your story, even though right now you are kind of falling victim to this strict enforcement.

2007-04-08 [NOOOPE]: So am I basically screwed? I mean, my proof photos are all pretty random and wouldn't be taken for any logical reason but to make my picture, which, as you can see on my art galleries, was put up yesterday, not several days ago when this contest wasn't about.

Sorry if I'm rambling/over reacting/annoying anyone.

2007-04-08 [moira hawthorne]: I like your photo!

2007-04-08 [Sunrose]: I will take this to the crewforum, see if there is a solution :)

2007-04-08 [NOOOPE]: thaaaank you and I'm very sorry I'm causing problems.

2007-04-14 [MidSuMMer.Nights]: can i send a picture to someone to make sure it fits this competition?

2007-04-14 [Sunrose]: You can put it in a comment here :)

2007-04-14 [NOOOPE]: Oh, am I allowed to enter?

2007-04-14 [Sunrose]: I've consulted the rest and so far the majority states what I stated earlier. Which means you will have to redo them with the proof included, simply because we've been as strict before and can't suddenly make an exception just for you.
But we will make sure that the proof-requirement is caught on easier in following contests (similar to the pictures [Hedda] now added to this contest's rules).

2007-04-14 [NOOOPE]: Well, never mind then. Sorry for the trouble.

2007-04-14 [Sunrose]: As am I.. :(

2007-04-14 [Nocternity S.]: so not that many entrees yet :( and i cant still think of something...

2007-04-14 [Sunrose]: It's sci-f, it doesn't attract many Elftowners which we expected :)

2007-04-14 [moira hawthorne]: I love scifi.. almost half of all the 1000 books I own are scifi... and Robert A Heinlein is my favorite author!

2007-04-14 [Sunrose]: Oh of course there are people who love it, that's why we're holding these contests. It just seems Elftown mostly attracts fantasy-lovers :)

2007-04-14 [Nocternity S.]: yeah fantasy is more attractive to me

2007-04-15 [Ilana]: I actually prefer sci-fi. And I'm sure there will be at least two more entries after April 27th... because that's when [Mekashef] and I finish school.

2007-04-15 [Sunrose]: :D

2007-04-15 [Nocternity S.]: i hope! im still thinking of what to do... but i'll defently participate

2007-04-16 [Kyrinn]: Wow, thats pretty cool, moira, awesome effects!

Sadly, I wont be taking part in this one, but Ill sure as heck watch. *does so*

2007-04-28 [Sunrose]: [dragonos]: Sorry, but adding two eyes to your photograph doesn't make it science fiction just yet. You will have to put more effort in before your entry will be accepted according to the theme.. :/

2007-04-28 [dragonos]: it not just the eye's that yes i added but look closely at my body it's messed up my fake eye is my left not my right and that arm you see all the tattoo's on is my right arm not my left that is what freaked me out i just thaught the red eye's thing was cute what i still can't figure out is how my rite arm shows as my left and my fake eye that is my left show's as my rite eye i would like to know how it happend i meen yes i know the mirror trick and reverse trick but that still dosent explane how my rite arm with tattoo's that was exactly the way the the left arm is now how can that happen and my fake eye its my left eye not the rite . can you explane that to me cause i dont get it

2007-04-28 [Linderel]: Also, the image description in your house says it's taken two years ago. The photos for this contest must be new.

2007-04-28 [dragonos]: that suck's I dont have a camara at the present time guese I will have to pass on it then for now till I can get one to add new ones